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Beyond the Beef is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas.

Contents

• i Synopsis
• ii Quick walkthrough
• 3 Detailed walkthrough
  • 3.one Working with Mortimer
    • iii.ane.1 Return Ted to his father and find a substitute for the feast
      • 3.1.1.1 Quest stages
    • 3.1.2 Kill Ted, and frame his father for the murder
      • 3.one.2.ane Quest stages
  • three.ii Following the Investigator
    • 3.2.1 Quest stages
  • 3.3 The Bloodthirsty Courier
• 4 Notes
• v Backside the scenes
• 6 Bugs
• 7 Gallery
• 8 References

Synopsis

Well known brahmin rancher Heck Gunderson asks the Courier to track down his son Ted, who has disappeared in the Ultra-Luxe Casino Hotel. Ted was kidnapped by agents of Mortimer of the White Glove Club, in an endeavor to return the White Glove Society to cannibalism.

Alarm: This quest is tied to Pheeble Will. If choosing the vengeful way to kill Heck Gunderson and/or his son, depending on your choices, it is possible to neglect one of the two quests.

Quick walkthrough

Side Quest: Beyond the Beef

Go to the Ultra-Luxe casino and speak with Heck Gunderson.

Speak with Marjorie and then Mortimer, the managers of the Ultra-Luxe.

Sort out everyone's problems past either:

Assist return Heck Gunderson's son to him alive, curing the White Glove Gild cannibalism in the process.

Aid return Heck Gunderson's son to him alive and help Mortimer return the White Glove Order to cannibalism past killing one of your human being companions or a human being named Carlyle St. Clair Iii.

Kill and cook Heck Gunderson's son, blame his begetter for the murder, and help the White Glove Society return to cannibalism.

Kill every White Glove member you see on the style to Ted and atomic number 82 him out alive.

Reward: 100 or 500 XP, 250 or 500 caps and the Strip fame or White Glove Social club fame.

Detailed walkthrough

In the Ultra-Luxe casino, the Courier finds Heck Gunderson, a wealthy brahmin baron, sitting at the bar and upset about his missing son. After questioning the purpose of his visit, one can offer help in finding his son, Ted Gunderson. Then go talk with Marjorie, one of the managers of the Ultra-Luxe Casino & Hotel, located at the Gourmand restaurant and acquire that a bride went missing in the hotel, which is damaging their reputation. At some point in the conversation she will inform you that the White Glove Society were cannibals, merely this practice is now forbidden. You lot take the option to tell her that you are a carnivorous as well, as a lie (unless y'all have the Carnivorous perk), which does non impress her and will atomic number 82 to White Glove Gild infamy.

After you inform her that you are looking for another man, much to her disbelief, she will tell you to notice the other manager, Mortimer. When talking to Mortimer you have several options.

• You tin can lie, with a Voice communication of 62, or employ the Carnivorous perk, to tell him that you are a cannibal as well (no infamy gained), he will exist euphoric and explicate his program to render the White Glove Social club to cannibalism, by killing or arranging a substitute for Ted Gunderson.
• You tin can just ask him directly if you lot have evil Karma and non-neutral Strip reputation.
• You can follow Marjorie's communication and enquire him about an investigator searching for clues about a missing bride in the hotel.

Working with Mortimer

Mortimer is very displeased that the Society is denying their basic impulses and wishes the return of the old practices. For this, he will adapt a banquet in which members will be served meals prepared with homo flesh. For this purpose he bundled a kidnapping, but the victim was able to escape. Having to find a substitute at the last minute, those loyal to him kidnapped Ted Gunderson, son of Heck Gunderson, a very powerful brahmin businesswoman.

Mortimer wants to get rid of Ted in a manner that doesn't leave whatever suspicion of the Ultra-Luxe; or, if it's not possible, kill Ted and use him every bit a meal, framing his father for the death. If y'all want to spare Ted's life you have to provide a substitute for the banquet, which tin can be ane of your human companions if you give this suggestion to him or the original victim that was able to escape, Carlyle St. Clair 3. Note, that you can't employ imitation strange pie for this chore. He then volition provide keys for the Ultra-Luxe freezer, Gourmand kitchen and Ultra-Luxe Penthouse, as well every bit a cattle prod.

Return Ted to his begetter and find a substitute for the banquet

• If you desire to render Ted alive to his father, go to the Gourmand eatery and use the elevator to go to the basement.
• A White Glove Social club guard volition ask what you are doing there. Inform him that Mortimer wishes to get rid of the kid without arousing suspicion if he cooperates, with a 55 Speech check.
• Open the freezer and talk to Ted. You accept to lie about the people who did this to him and laissez passer a 38 Spoken communication cheque, indicating that maybe information technology was some competitors trying to screw his male parent'due south negotiation nearly brahmin with the "White Pants Order" (in Ted's ain words).
• Go out with him through the Gourmand eatery kitchen. If you attempt to apply the members-only door everyone in the basement volition plow hostile (even if y'all don't open the door).
• Guide Ted to his father, who will be furious and demand to know who did this to Ted. Lie that you lot don't know and receive 500 caps from him, also as some White Glove Gild fame.

The next step is to find a substitute for the banquet.

You may either:

Sacrifice one of your homo companions by going to the kitchen and locking them in the freezer. This volition end the quest. Annotation: yous will lose anything they are carrying.

or:

Travel to Carlyle St. Clair'due south business firm and convince Carlyle to go to the Ultra-Luxe, or knock him unconscious and put his body in a dumpster close to his business firm. His domicile is located close to Freeside Northward Entrance; travel to the gate and follow the route between north and northeast in a straight line.

There are many ways to deal with Carlyle St. Clair. Yous can convince him to get to the Ultra-Luxe with a 65 Speech check; if you have the Black Widow perk yous can propose to have sex with him in the dumpster; with 45 guns you can pistol-whip him; request him almost himself will reveal he was blackness-labeled by his family unit and with a 45 Voice communication you tin convince him that the White Glove Society can make clean his proper name; asking about a pain he has in the neck will pb to a vii Forcefulness, 45 Medicine or 45 Unarmed bank check that will knock him unconscious. If yous don't have whatever of these skills, utilize a cattle prod that Mortimer provided to you lot (make certain that your companions are away, if not they may accidentally kill him). Drag his body to the dumpster and place him inside. It should be noted that if yous have the Cannibal perk, devouring him volition make yous neglect the quest.

Go dorsum to Mortimer after dealing with St. Clair, or your companion, and gain 500 XP and a huge boost of Strip and White Glove Society fame. This concludes the quest and the White Glove volition render to cannibalism after the 7PM banquet.

ALTERNATIVELY:

Y'all can steal or gain through dialogue a recipe from the caput chef, Philippe, that will let you create a human being mankind alternative to fool Mortimer and all the White Glove members (55 Barter bank check will get you his recipe, 55 Medicine check will go you lot his recipe and the key to the freezer where they're keeping Ted). This volition outcome in Mortimer revealing himself at the banquet without the histrion having to kill anyone, not even the cook. This is possible if the player can pass a Barter, Medicine or Speech cheque to get the recipes and remove the melt without having to kill him. Create the dish, and wait until 7 PM for the feast to begin. Employ the intercom to call the head waiter. When the waiter arrives you must either be disguised as a member of the White Glove Society or hidden out of sight, otherwise he will become hostile.

If yous plan on freeing Ted and exposing Mortimer, talk to him only after the caput waiter has left the room, preferably the area, because he will be hostile if Ted is following you. Use the straight route to the banquet hall, and sneak while you enter, considering the White Glove members will be hostile to yous. Expect for Mortimer to stop his speech, walk up to him, stand up upwards and rapidly talk to him, because otherwise your companions and Ted will set on the bouncer, causing the unabridged room to become hostile to you (if you observe yous are unable to avoid this, open the panel, click on Ted, and type in "tai" and press Enter. This volition disable his AI and prevent him from attacking. Do the same for any companions. Be sure to do it once more to re-enable their AI one time you have dealt with Mortimer). Betrayal Mortimer's program, and talk to Marjorie for your boost to White Glove Social club fame. You also gain Strip fame if you persuade (35 Oral communication) Heck Gunderson not to stop selling brahmin meat to White Glove society.

Quest stages

Stage	Condition	Description
10		Ask effectually the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
20		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
80		Get Ted back to his male parent if he is even so alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson, who's beingness held in a room beneath the Gourmand.
105		Return Ted to his father at the Ultra-Luxe'south Peak Shelf Bar.
110		Secure an acceptable replacement for Ted Gunderson as the White Glove Social club's chief form.
120		Talk to Carlyle St. Clair at his residence northward of the Strip.
125		(Optional) Lock one of your human companions in the Ultra-Luxe kitchen freezer as replacement for Ted.
130		(Optional) Accept the recipe-volume from the cook, not-violently (optional) and make a human being-flesh culling and let Mortimer expose himself to the people, while they dine on a meat that's not human being-flesh.
200		Return to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Kill Ted, and frame his father for the murder

If y'all want to complete the quest Pheeble Will and receive a very prissy reward from both Mortimer and Walter Phebus, killing Ted is advantageous.

Accept the quest from Walter simply don't take any of the Barter checks. Become back to the Ultra-Luxe and tell Mortimer that you want to help him (you may have to lie to him). Mortimer will give you a key that lets you lot enter the kitchen basement. A White Glove Lodge guard will ask what you are doing, inform him that Mortimer wishes to go rid of the child. Open the freezer and talk to Ted. You have the choice to talk a little or only tell him that you lot are finishing what the White Gloves started, which will crusade him to turn hostile. Later killing Ted, collect a bit of claret and some remains from the corpse to frame his male parent.

Note: This pick is however available if you lot lie about your intention when agreeing to assist Mortimer, merely go along in heed that yous mustn't agree to help Heck Gunderson notice his son when asking what he is doing in the Ultra-Luxe in the quest Pheeble Will or the option to aid Mortimer frame Heck will not announced. Simply fifty-fifty then it is nonetheless possible to get with this option past simply going near the quest to aid Mortimer and impale Ted anyway, as the quest will simply accelerate to the office of framing Heck as soon as Ted is dead.

With the imitation show in your inventory, go to the Ultra-Luxe Penthouse. The penthouse can be accessed from an elevator located in a room backside Mortimer's desk. Two bodyguards working for Gunderson, his hired easily patrol the suite and are hostile, but can be killed without Karma penalty. Distribute the blood and remains of Ted in the bed and in the bathroom sink. So go to the Strip and inform a securitron that a murder happened in the Ultra-Luxe. After making a surreal and mocking voice communication about the constabulary, the securitron volition proceed to arrest Heck Gunderson, who will resist and end up being killed.

Proceed to Mortimer for your reward of 500 XP, Strip and White Glove Gild fame, and the result of the White Glove Society returning to cannibalism later the 7PM feast.

Later on talking to Mortimer, go back to Walter for an additional reward of 200 XP and ane,500 caps or 110 XP and 400 caps.

Extra info: This method will let the Courier to complete the entire line of tasks in Return Unto Caesar.

Quest stages

Stage	Status	Description
10		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for data regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
twenty		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
80		Get Ted dorsum to his father if he is still alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson who's being held in a room beneath the Gourmand.
150		Kill Ted Gunderson.
160		Collect samples of Ted'southward corpse for use in framing his father.
170		Distribute your samples around Heck Gunderson's bed and sink in his Ultra-Luxe penthouse suite.
180		Send a Securitron from the Strip to investigate Heck Gunderson'south suite.
200		Return to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Following the Investigator

There is also a fashion to salvage Ted and forestall the White Glove Gild from returning to cannibalism:

When you lot talk to Marjorie nigh the disappearance of Ted, she tells y'all that an investigator was looking for clues about a missing bride who had stayed at the hotel, and so she directs you lot to Mortimer. After inquiring Mortimer about the investigator, he gives yous a key to the investigator'south room. If you inquire about the White Glove Society'due south reputation of cannibalism, you have the opportunity to prevarication with 62 Speech or use the Cannibal perk to tell him that yous are as well a cannibal. Mortimer will reveal his plan to you and asking that you lot assistance him. If you agree to help without lying, you will not be able to obtain the note Matchbook from the expressionless investigator or encounter with Chauncey. If you lot prevarication virtually helping, Mortimer will give you the Penthouse central, kitchen primal, and freezer key.

Go to the investigator's room, located in the Ultra-Luxe Hotel rooms. You volition discover that the investigator is dead. Search his torso for the matchbook note, which volition tell you lot that he had a meeting with someone in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4PM. Two White Glove Social club members will appear and attack with dress canes. After dealing with them, caput to the steam room and wait until 4PM.

In the steam room, you will meet Chauncey, a member of the White Glove Lodge who wants to stop Mortimer from returning to cannibalism. He tells you that a feast at 7PM will serve a meal made with human flesh and that Mortimer is behind the disappearance of Ted Gunderson. Mortimer'due south plan is to make a speech telling the White Glove Society what they ate so they will pass the taboo and return to cannibalism.

Chauncey doesn't know where Ted is, but he suspects that he is existence held in the Members-Only department of the Ultra-Luxe. Chauncey warns you that if Ted is seen in the hotel, the other members will assault to protect their secret. He gives two suggestions for freeing Ted:

• You can fasten the wine with a Med-Ten and 25 Medicine to create drugged vino, then escape with Ted while the members are comatose (if y'all need a Med-X, you can endeavor to find one in a get-go assist kit, although it is rare. At that place are three kits in the basement: one in each of the ii side by side basement kitchens, and one in the storage room adjacent to the bathroom).
• Yous tin cook up a fake meal that will play tricks Mortimer into exposing himself without corrupting the rest of the White Glove members. According to Chauncey, at the terminate of Mortimer'southward oral communication, you can enter the banquet hall with Ted live and cause the Social club to expel Mortimer.

Chauncey recommends the second approach, since the first would but exist a temporary solution, and information technology would non prevent Mortimer from trying again in the future. Right after you lot say bye, an assassin will appear and impale Chauncey. Note: Chauncey is scripted to die. Even if you impale the assassin before a single shot is fired against Chauncey, he will nevertheless die instantly as if he had been shot.

Subsequently dealing with the assassinator, proceed to the Gourmand. If your reputation on the Strip is "accepted" or better, Marjorie will sponsor you as a member and give you formal wear and a key to the Members-Only department. Behind the bar is a door to the kitchen that can be lockpicked, or use the key if information technology was provided by Mortimer before (or take the long way from the casino flooring to the Members-Merely section and through the door behind the bar to the kitchen.)

In the upper level are two White Glove members torching meat with flamers. There are 6 pieces of infected brahmin meat on the counters. Use the elevator or head downwardly the stairs to the basement. There is a White Glove Gild member patrolling the hallway. If he sees you and asks what you lot are doing in the basement, you can lie with 55 Oral communication and say that Mortimer wants to motion the kid, or you lot can cull a 35 Repair check to convince him that you lot are a plumber checking for leaks.

Go down the hall and look for the kitchen where the executive chef, Philippe, is located (in that location is a Recipes - Brahmin Wellington on the counter). To free Ted, yous can use either the freezer key or the last adjacent to the freezer door (at a loss of Karma,) merely you lot must deal with Philippe first. At that place are several things that tin be done:

• Y'all can pickpocket Philippe for the note Philippe'due south recipes and the freezer key.
• You can impale and loot him. This gains White Glove Guild infamy unless information technology is a stealth impale. You likewise gain Karma since he is evil.
• Y'all can antagonize Philippe through dialogue until yous have the opportunity for several skill checks. (Note: yous tin can exercise multiple checks if you talk to him again afterwards.)
  • Speech bank check: With 55 Speech, you tin can tell him y'all saw a Radroach. He will encounter the pantry, at which indicate you can utilise the terminal to close the door, trapping him within. However, y'all demand 75 Survival to make imitation strange meat pie without a recipe, or create drugged wine with a Med-10 and 25 Medicine.
  • Barter check: With 55 Castling, you tin can say you are major publisher looking for a cookbook. Then at that place are ii options: pay him 100 caps for an accelerate on the book, or pass another 55 Voice communication cheque to tell him to give you his recipes. However, you still demand to observe a fashion to go rid of him and a way to get into the freezer (if you don't want to use the concluding).
  • Medicine bank check: With 55 Medicine, you can tell him "harebrained psychobabble" until he has a breakdown. He gives y'all his recipes and freezer key earlier fleeing.

If you wish to melt imitation strange meat pie and expose Mortimer, you will need Philippe'due south recipes and 6 Intelligence or 75 Survival to improvise ane.

If you wish to make drugged wine, you lot need a Med-X and 25 Medicine. (If y'all demand a Med-X, you tin endeavour to find one in a start aid kit, although information technology is rare. There are three first aid kits in the basement: one in each of the two adjacent basement kitchens, and one in the storage room next to the bathroom.) In that location is a wine bottle you tin examine on a shelf above the stove in Philippe'due south kitchen, and another wine bottle on a table in the wine cellar room (in the room next to the other kitchen). You lot merely need to drug one bottle, simply information technology cannot be taken despite the cherry steal message. Nonetheless, you can pickpocket the head waiter while he is conveying information technology; the members at the feast still end up beingness drugged. (This makes it possible to keep both the drugged wine and imitation foreign meat pie in your inventory, if you lot as well melt the false food and "steal" it.)

After cooking the nutrient or drugging the wine, await until 7PM (when the dinner guests arrive,) then use the intercom to call the head waiter to come up down and collect the wine/repast. If Marjorie did not sponsor you as a White Glove Society member before, disguise yourself in White Glove attire before the head waiter arrives, or stay hidden so that he does not become hostile. (For whatever reason, sometimes the waiter stops in front of the kitchen door when told to option upwardly the wine; to prepare this, just close the door, and he'll retrieve the second bottle in the wine cellar.) It's also advisable to free Ted after the head waiter has left, since seeing Ted will turn the waiter hostile. When you open the door, Ted will be very upset, demanding to know who did this to him. Yous have three options: say there'southward no time to explain, tell him the truth, or lie and say y'all don't know who did it. In order to proceeds White Glove Society fame when the quest ends, don't tell Ted (or his begetter) the truth, so choose "There's no time to explain" or lie to him.

Take Ted follow y'all out of the kitchen and to the right, being careful to make sure the waiter isn't yet walking back. Follow the stairs up and go through the door to the White Glove private dining area (if yous're not a fellow member you'll need to utilize a key from Marjorie or Mortimer, or pick the lock). If the waiter took the wine, everyone will be asleep. You can boodle the bodies, Mortimer beingness among them. If the waiter took the fake repast, crouch down and hide backside the bar until Mortimer finishes his speech communication. Note: You must await for him to cease his banquet speech with the words "bon appetit" before you approach Mortimer. Doing and then beforehand will cause the other White Gloves to become hostile to yous.

As soon as Mortimer finishes, but jump over the counter, run over to him and initiate dialogue. Exposing him will cause him to flee, only the other diners - the ones who might otherwise have attacked you - should remain neutral. If you are successfully able to attack Mortimer afterward exposing him but before he flees the room, the other diners may collectively mob Mortimer and assist you in killing him. Afterwards, talk to Marjorie to receive White Glove Social club fame.

At this point yous can either render Ted to his father, or you can carry out the revenge path of Pheeble Will as detailed in the section higher up.

To complete the quest peacefully, render with Ted to his male parent. If you didn't lie to Ted in the freezer, he will tell his father what happened and Heck will want to impose a occludent of food on the Strip. You accept the option to not allow this happen with a 35 Speech communication check, which will atomic number 82 to Strip fame. If yous are unable to pass the check, you will gain infamy. If you lied to Ted in the freezer (or said at that place wasn't time to explain), his father asks who was behind the kidnapping. If you tell the truth, you have to pass the same 35 Spoken language check, merely this time you will just gain Strip fame. If you lie to him, yous will proceeds both Strip fame and White Glove Club fame.

Yous also get 500 XP and 500 caps for completing the quest.

Quest stages

Stage	Condition	Clarification
10		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
20		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
xxx		Go into the investigator'due south room at the Ultra-Luxe.
35		Search the Investigator for clues.
40		Encounter with the investigator's contact in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4pm.
l		Discover a fashion to proceeds access to the Members-Only section of the Gourmand.
60		(Optional) Find a sponsor to help you join the White Glove Society.
seventy		(Optional) Alert Heck Gunderson to his son's state of affairs.
75		(Optional) Get rid of Philippe and cook for the banquet using his recipe for human being flesh.
76		(Optional) Drug the vino at the White Glove Social club banquet.
78		(Optional) Use the intercom to telephone call in the caput waiter.
79		(Optional) Bring Ted to the Members But department to expose Mortimer at the cease of his feast oral communication.
80		Become Ted back to his begetter if he is still alive.
90		Talk to Heck Gunderson.

The Bloodthirsty Courier

You as well have the unmarked option to apply Wasteland manners in the pedant confront of the White Glove Society, if you don't listen the possibility of beingness vilified by them.

Follow the quest every bit detailed in the "Following the Investigator" section higher up, but after discovering from Chauncey the plans regarding Ted, the Courier has the unmarked selection to tell Heck Gunderson what's happening.

Later on you take given Heck the news, he offers a different solution: simply shoot everyone in your way and return Ted to him. He provides yous with a sawed-off shotgun and some shells.

Note that if y'all do this, you can impale all of the White Gloves in the casino with no Karma loss and never take your weapons taken again. You can even go into the cashier's function and clean it out to go your possessions back, suffering only pocket-sized Karma loss for opening/stealing things. So you will have all your weapons and can continue the quest uninterrupted, although you may want to disguise as a White Glove to foreclose unwanted attacks. Just be sure not to kill Marjorie or Mortimer or the quest will fail. Even after all the killing, one time yous complete the quest you may however go from hated to idolized by the White Gloves.

In one case yous return Ted to his begetter the quest is completed, and you gain 500 XP and 500 caps from Heck.

Notes

• It is possible to skip almost all of this quest and still receive the XP points and reward from Heck. After speaking with Heck for the first time and agreeing to aid find his son, but sneak into the Gourmand kitchen via the locked door behind the bar. It is possible to do this undetected. In one case inside, sneak by the two White Gloves roasting the brahmin meat and head down the stairs. There is another White Glove on patrol in this hallway. If he detects y'all he will confront you and y'all can pass a Spoken language check to convince him that Mortimer told you to move the boy or tell him you're there to fix some leaky pipes. If y'all laissez passer one of these Speech checks he will permit you continue. Whatsoever of the doors on the left side of the hallway will pb you lot to where Phillipe is continuing. He volition exist facing the wall and it is possible to sneak by him undetected. Behind him is the door to the freezer room. Hack the last (accessing the final will cause you to lose Karma) to gain access to the freezer. This is where Ted is existence held. Talk to Ted and he will follow you out. It is possible to sneak past Phillipe again. If y'all are detected by Phillipe after freeing Ted he volition become hostile, along with all the other White Gloves in the kitchen area. The White Glove in the hallway will non face up you even if he sees Ted with yous. Sneak dorsum upstairs and out of the kitchen. Once you're out of the kitchen find Heck speak with him. Y'all will have all the dialogue options as you would normally.
• The decision to help the White Glove Society or not does not take any repercussions in the game or in the quest Return Unto Caesar other than giving some Legion reputation and a lot of bad Karma to the histrion. This is the just quest in New Vegas that doesn't carry any repercussions betwixt factions, towns, locations or non-player characters. This is also one of the few quests that allows you to subvert the unabridged progression and kill almost everyone in it without dissentious your reputation or Karma.
• The player can both expose Mortimer and kill Heck and Ted without framing Heck. To practice this, expose Mortimer as detailed in the above walkthrough, and so kill Ted in an abandoned area of the casino so you are non seen. Written report to Heck that Ted is dead and tell him the White Glove Society kidnapped him, which leads into the same 35 Voice communication cheque to not stop supplying the Strip meat as though the player brought Ted back live. Heck will remain at the bar afterwards dialogue ends, simply draw your weapon and impale him, so put your weapon abroad and the White Glove Society members and other patrons should get dorsum to friendly. You lot can and so report to Walter to conclude Pheeble Volition. This path earns you the title "Good-Natured Rascal", as you lot will be idolized by the White Glove Society only are guilty of breaking their rules by carrying a weapon and attacking Heck in their view. Or, kill him stealthily, due east.grand. with the silenced .22 pistol, which is a holdout weapon. Hiding in the casino backside a tabular array is quite achievable, you may have to burn 2 or iii times to kill him before he turns around.
• If you lot chose to drug the wine, afterwards the head waiter picks upward the drugged wine, you tin pickpocket it off him with no change in the current objective (the White Glove Society members will still become comatose).
  • Also, when you enter the White Glove Society gathering y'all take the option to talk to the members. Attempting to talk to them actually opens up their extended inventory (the wearing apparel they are currently wearing will be listed), which yous can loot without loss of Karma or reputation. Fifty-fifty later on finishing the quest, the members will not replace their clothing or masks, and they will walk around in their underwear. Likewise if you wake them upward when they are drugged by hitting one then putting your fists abroad they all will walk effectually the room and you can however pick their pockets equally if they were unconscious and the player will not be able to talk to them until they exit.
• If all the securitrons on The Strip were killed previously, it tin can exist difficult to stop this quest via framing Gunderson as the quest markers will simply betoken to empty spaces and the securitrons can take a very long fourth dimension to respawn. This tin be detrimental when playing on Hardcore as yous will about likely take to look for over a week, during which time you will have to go along sleep, dehydration and hunger levels downwards. On the PC version accessing the console, targeting a expressionless securitron and inbound the command "resurrect" will restore the securitron to life and allow you to consummate the quest.
• If y'all are working for Mr. House afterward the quest is completed y'all have the option to tell him that the White Gloves are now cannibals, he will then tell y'all to deal with them in any way you lot run into fit as this is a alienation of their contract.
• If you lot choose to frame Heck Gunderson, the securitron that comes to bargain with him volition be a securitron MK I, regardless of whether or not the Courier upgraded Mr. House's securitrons to MK II.
• If you want to consummate both the Pheeble Will and Beyond The Beefiness quests with the most experience, the all-time selection is to, if you have the advisable Castling skill level, become Phebus to agree to pay 400 caps for your aid offset. And then, go talk to Heck Gunderson and detect out his son Ted is missing. Later that, speak with Phebus again and tell him what you've found out; he'll pay you lot and the next set of dialogue options will appear. Only choose 'Farewell', and then talk to his wife. Tell her you'll endeavour to talk Phebus out of it, then do then by whatever methods are at your disposal. He and his wife will leave without y'all having to impale Ted or Heck. This volition requite yous 413 XP, but only 400 caps. It too requires Speech 75. This way you can bring Ted dorsum to his father Heck and receive 589 XP, besides equally 500 caps. You do however need Speech 35 to ensure you get the Strip and White Glove Society fame. Too killing Mortimer later on you show him upwards will give you lot 55 XP. But if you complete this quest peacefully get-go will fail the Pheeble Will quest. If you already took Ted to Heck, finish the former quest before talking to Heck.
• If you bring Ted back to Heck and so kill Heck, the White Glove Lodge will shun you, but Heck'due south hired gun will help you fight them.
• Picking the lock to the door that leads to the cashier's booth volition outcome in negative Karma, and upon approaching the cashier, he will get hostile. However, if you lot only option the lock then shut the door, there will be no resulting hostility.
• The only way to receive Strip fame is currently to dissuade Heck Gunderson from imposing a food blockade, which is possible ONLY if you return Ted to his male parent, thus failing Pheeble Volition. Helping Mortimer promotes you to Idolized with the White Gloves, but has no effect on your Strip reputation. (You tin likewise just impale Ted and prevarication to Heck that you only institute him and don't know who did information technology, that will also give you Strip fame, equally well equally White Glove fame).
• As of version 1.four, neither Mortimer nor Marjorie take lines near cannibalism or Ted Gunderson until you offer to Heck to find his son (at least if you lot aren't a Cannibal and only accept loftier Speech). And, contrary to what the walkthrough keeps reiterating, this volition actually enable yous to inquire Mortimer for a task. Having Pheeble Will started or not does not seem to be of relevance. Put another fashion, this quest is at present given only by Heck Gunderson.

Behind the scenes

• Across the Beef was designed past Eric Fenstermaker.
• Across the Beef took a very long fourth dimension to cease during evolution, as information technology took many milestones to complete. Information technology was never under consideration to be cut from the game, despite its bugs, because of the quality of the quest - instead, the internal discussions were more along the lines of emphasizing the need to wrap upwardly development of the quest so the team could focus efforts elsewhere.^{[Not-canon 1]}
• If the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, then later framing Heck Gunderson, the securitron sent to arrest him will say the line "Dead or alive, you lot're coming with me" just before shooting him. This is a quote from the picture RoboCop (1987). The vocalisation and inflection audio like to that of Robocop every bit well.
• Too if the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, the deceased investigator will be named "Crusoe." This is in reference to Robinson Crusoe, the protagonist of the archetype novel of same name. In the novel, Crusoe is marooned on an island where he encounters cannibals.
• The proper name of this quest is another play of words that near likely refers to the song Beyond the Reef, written by J. Pitman in 1948 and made popular in 1950 by Bing Crosby. The vocal was covered by Elvis Presley and The Ventures, along with many other artists.

Bugs

• PC Playstation three Xbox 360 If you choose to melt the imitation meat pie and and then have it, when you phone call the head waiter over he will stand in front of the oven and will non move. ^[verified]
  • On the Xbox 360, if y'all put it back and so wait 24 hours, he will accept taken it. Make certain information technology is still effectually vii PM when you leave the kitchen or you volition meet the bug mentioned below where Mortimer doesn't make his speech.
• PC Playstation iii Xbox 360 Ted Gunderson may go stuck in combat mode, and will not follow you through surface area transitions. To correct, await one hour or fast travel to The Strip North Gate, Ted should appear soon. When re-entering the Strip, be cautious as Ted does not have a passport and volition exist shot past security if y'all practise not make it to the gate fast enough. Taking the monorail from Camp McCarran will also work. Alternatively, if you do not want to risk Ted dying, you tin can slowly and carefully walk into him, pushing him towards Heck. This is assuming you practise non take to travel through any doors. You can besides utilize the 'resurrect' command on him from the console if you're playing the PC version, and information technology will reset him. Waiting ii to three hours on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 also works. Also, if you have a full political party, dismissing your humanoid companion on the spot, causes him to act normally (Tested on PC). ^[verified]
• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 If yous ready the meal, phone call the waiter, so go up to the private dining room without Ted, Mortimer may never brainstorm his voice communication. If you endeavour to render later with Ted, the room will become hostile toward you. ^[verified]
• Xbox 360 If you are working with the Legion, and leave Boone in the freezer as a substitute meal, brand sure you impale him earlier locking him in. "Dorsum" him up into the freezer, impale him, return the Gunderson kid to his father, so tell Mortimer. If y'all do not kill Boone starting time, fifty-fifty if you lot hire another companion later on he's been eaten, when you lot go to the Legion army camp, you volition exist perceived as hostile and attacked on sight. ^[verified]

Gallery

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References

Non-catechism

1. ↑ Fallout: New Vegas 10th Anniversary Charity Stream (reference starts at 2:23:fifteen)
   Joshua Sawyer: "'Did I mean to cutting Across the Beefiness?' No, Beyond the Beef... there were quests that we cutting for complexity or, like, they got out of control actually quickly. But Across the Beef... even though it's buggy, is a very good quest. No... Beyond the Beef did accept multiple milestones to stop, which was frustrating, because in that location was a lot of content to brand. But it was a very good quest, so we never talked about cutting it, only there was always similar 'we gotta wrap upward Across the Beef then nosotros tin exercise other quests in the game.' That was more of the word."

five ·d ·east Quests in Fallout: New Vegas
Main quests Act ane Ain't That a Kick in the Caput · Dorsum in the Saddle · By a Campfire on the Trail · They Went That-a-Way · Ring-a-Ding-Ding! Human activity two Wild Card (Wild Card: Ace in the Hole, Change in Direction, You lot and What Regular army?, Side Bets, Finishing Touches) · The House Always Wins (I, Two, 3, 4, 5, VI, VII, VIII) · Render Unto Caesar · Et Tumor, Brute? · Things That Go Smash · Kings' Gambit · For the Democracy, Part ii · You'll Know It When It Happens/Arizona Killer Act three No Gods, No Masters · All or Nothing · Veni, Vidi, Vici · Eureka! 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Blues · High Times · Someone to Watch Over Me · The Coyotes · Wang Dang Diminutive Tango Boomers Ant Misbehavin' · Sunshine Boogie · Volare! · Immature Hearts Great Khans Aba Daba Honeymoon · Cry Me a River · Don't Make a Beggar of Me · Oh My Papa Powder Gang Booted · I Fought the Police force · Run Goodsprings Run · Why Tin can't We Be Friends? Alliance of Steel Eyesight to the Blind · Still in the Dark · Tend to Your Business concern Other Come Fly With Me · Crazy, Crazy, Crazy · Ghost Town Gunfight · Guess Who I Saw Today · Left My Heart · My Kind of Town · The Fable of the Star and A Valuable Lesson · Unfriendly Persuasion · Wheel of Fortune Companion quests ED-E My Love · For Auld Lang Syne · Heartache by the Number · I Could Make You Intendance · I Forgot to Remember to Forget · Nothin' But a Hound Dog · One for My Infant Unmarked quests A Fleck of Slap and Tickle · A Final Plan for Esteban · Admission Powers · All Fired Up! · An Ear to the Footing · Andy and Charlie · Arachnophobia · Arizona Scavenger · Barton the Fink · Bear Necessities · Large Winner (Atomic Wrangler, The Gomorrah, The Tops, Ultra-Luxe, Vikki & Vance) · Bounty Killer (I, Ii) · Brotherhood Bond (I, II) · Caching in at the Cove · Cajoling a Cudgel · Claws Mended · Claws Out · Dealing with Contreras · Defacing the Apprehensive Rock · Democracy Inaction · Don't Poke at the Conduct! · Eddie's Emissary · Exhumin' Nature · Fight Night · Flogging a Expressionless Corpse · Friend of the Followers · Gland for Some Home Cooking · Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger · Chapeau's Entertainment · Help for Halford · Hidden Valley computer virus · Highway to the Danger Zone (I, II) · Honorary Rocketeer · I Dear Bananas · Fe and Stealing · Keith'due south Caravan Charade · Laurifer Gladiator · Lenk's Bad Debts · Lily and Leo · Long-Term Intendance · Malleable Mini Boomer Minds · Maud's Muggers · Meeting an Equal · Missing a Few Missiles · Nearly Wanted · Not Worth a Hill of Corn and Beans · Quondam School Ghoul · A Pair of Dead Desperados (I, Two) · Papers, Delight · Pistol Packing · Playing on the Sometime Joana · Poor Meat Never Makes Good Soup · Powder to the People · Power to the People · Razzle Dazzle! · Accomplish for the Sky, Mister! · Rest and Resupply · Ringo's Caravan Rules · Rotface's Loose Lips · Saving (or Savaging) Sergeant Teddy · The Screams of Brahmin · Silus Treatment · Curt-Term Treatment · Smoothen-Talking Criminal · The Star Showdown · Strategic Nuclear Moose · Straus Calls · Strip Search · Suits Yous, Sarah · Tags of Our Fallen · A Team of Moronic Mercenaries · Thought for the Day · Tourist Traipse · Trudy'south Radio Repair · A Trusted Aide · Useless Baubles or Fancy Trinkets? · Nosotros Must Stop Beating Like This · We Must Cease Meeting Like This · Wind-Brahmin Wrangler · You Gotta Break Out a Few Eggs · Yous Brand Me Feel Like a Woman Improver quests Expressionless Money Sierra Madre Thou Opening! · Find Collars (8: "Dog", 12: Christine, 14: Dean Domino) · Fires in the Heaven · Strike Upwards the Band · Mixed Signals · Trigger the Gala Issue · Put the Beast Downward · Concluding Luxuries · Curtain Phone call at the Tampico · Heist of the Centuries · Big Winner, Sierra Madre Honest Hearts A Family Affair · Arrival at Zion · Bighorners of the Eastern Virgin · Chaos in Zion · Civilized Human being'south Burden · Crush the White Legs · Deliverer of Sorrows  · Departing Paradise · Flight from Zion · Gathering Storms · Gone Fishin' · Happy Trails Trek · Prisoners of War · Retake the Bridge · River Monsters · Rite of Passage · Roadside Allure · Sanctity of the Expressionless · The Advance Scouts  · The Treacherous Road · The Grand Staircase · Tourist Trap Old World Blues All My Friends Accept Off Switches · A Encephalon's All-time Friend · Coming Out of Her Shell · Field Inquiry · He Came... 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v ·d ·e New Vegas
Locations Freeside Atomic Wrangler Casino · Cerulean Robotics · Freeside's east gate · Freeside's n gate · King'southward School of Impersonation · Mick & Ralph's · Onetime Mormon Fort · Ruined store · Silverish Blitz New Vegas Strip Gomorrah · Lucky 38 · Las Vegas Boulevard Station · Michael Angelo'due south workshop · NCR Embassy · NCR Military Law HQ · The Strip North Gate · The Tops · Ultra-Luxe · Vault 21 North Vegas Foursquare The Greyness Westside Casa Madrid Apartments · Klamath Bob's liquor store · Miguel's Pawn Shop · North cistern · Westside Co-op · Westside south archway · Westside westward entrance Sewers Central sewers · East primal sewers · Northward sewers · Sealed sewers · Northwest sewers  · Southwest sewers Characters Freeside April Martimer · Arcade Gannon · Atomic Wrangler crier · Beatrix Russell · Large Beard · Beak Ronte · Caleb McCaffery · Dixon · Elizabeth Kieran · Farris · Fisto · Francine Garret · Genaro · Gloria Van Graff · Grecks · Hadrian · Henry Jamison · Irate Ida · Jacob Hoff · James Garret · Jean-Baptiste Cutting · Julie Farkas · The King · Lady Jane · Little Beard · Fiddling Buster · Malefic Maud · Max · Mick · Mick & Ralph's crier · Mr. Soren · Sometime Ben · Orris · Pacer · Ralph · Rancorous Ruth · Rex · Rotface · Roy · Santiago · Sergio · Silverish Rush crier · Simon · Stacey · Tapper · Vagrant · Wayne New Vegas Strip Alerio · Assassin · Benny · Big Sal · Billy Knight · Bruce Isaac · Push button man · Cachino · Chauncey · Clanden · Crusoe · Dazzle · Dennis Crocker · Emily Ortal · Ethel Phebus · Gambler · Gomorrah dealer · Gomorrah entrance guard · Gomorrah floor manager · Gourmand food supplier · Gomorrah prostitute · Hadrian · Heck Gunderson · Mister Holdout · Jake Erwin · Jane · Jay Barnes · Joana · Kate · Liza O'Malley · The Lonesome Drifter · Marie Pappas · Marjorie · Martina Groesbeck · Michael Angelo · Mortimer · Mr. New Vegas · NCR military police · Nero · Philippe · Robert House · Sarah Weintraub · Swank · Street vendor · Ted Gunderson · Tommy Torini · The Tops cashier · The Tops floor director · Tops promoter · Troike · Ultra-Luxe cashier · Head waiter · Ultra-Luxe floor director · Victor · Walter Phebus · White Glove greeter · Yes Human being N Vegas Square Andy Scabb · Crandon · Jules · Squatter Bill Westside Tom Anderson · Ettienne · Dermot · Hector · Jimmy · Judah Kreger · Keller · Klamath Bob · Marco · Maude · Mean Sonofabitch · Miguel · Pretty Sarah · Saint James · Sweetie

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